This is why we can't have nice things
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References:
The Man in the White Suit - ve42.co/Suit
London, B. (1932). Ending the depression through planned obsolescence. - ve42.co/London32
Slade, G. (2009). Made to break: Technology and obsolescence in America. Harvard University Press - ve42.co/madetobreak
Krajewski, M. (2014). The great lightbulb conspiracy. IEEE spectrum, 51(10), 56-61. - ve42.co/Phoebus
Planet Money, The Phoebus Cartel - ve42.co/PMobs
The Light Bulb Conspiracy - isnets.info/main/mGrc0Z5olmiqhJY/v-deo.html
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Written by Derek Muller and Petr Lebedev
Animation by Ivan Tello
Filmed by Derek Muller and Raquel Nuno
Edited by Derek Muller
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Music by Jonny Hyman and from epidemicsound.com"Aquatic Planet", "Rhythm of Dreams", "Tread Lightly", "Unexpected Visitors", "Curved Mirrors" "Drunken Lullaby" "Fluorescent Lights"
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  • Molnár Robi
    Molnár Robi

    we watched a documentary about this topic back in 6th/7th grade and it left a really big impact on my life. go open source, jailbreak, never pay for subscriptions and never buy desktop SOCs because they can be slowed down with a firmware update forever (also it's just companies trying to cheap out on silicon)

  • barutaji
    barutaji

    We may say socialism does not work, but we gotta admit that capitalism doesn't either. It creates a lot of internal inconsistencies, like this one. Also, no one wants to pay workers, but the system needs workers with money to consume. Technology becomes a threat to work, and not a help to humanity. Also we can have those strange bubbles where we have at the same time excess of production coupled with loss of jobs. The market does not invest in infraestructure and research, since it is not a good business and so it need structures outside the market logic of organizing resources (like the government) to make it and then steal it by a small price afterwards. I could go on and on. The market is an irrational mess.

  • kil ler
    kil ler

    Than i think human can live long if human doctors allow. We are so greedy we are not halp each others that why country's are fighting each other's for greed. 😕

  • Syed Anas
    Syed Anas

    ❤️💕💞

  • Vantahawk
    Vantahawk

    I feel like there was a much more crucial point of critique regarding capitalism in here that got lost (not that I expected it). Afterall no LED bulb or any other technological improvement is free of planned/dynamic obsolesence (which is why it rings so hollow that the video ended on that note). The proposed policy in Europe is ofc good but also just _proposed_ . And it is going to have to overcome a whirlwind of corporate resistance (lobbying, corruption, propaganda, capital leverage, etc.) in order to get anywhere. Is the general point not, that everyone can clearly see how irrational planned obsolesence is for consumers and how destructive it is to our planet - and yet we live in a system that is destined to reproduce it in various ways all over the economy? Isn't that curious?

  • Cyber Ghost 404
    Cyber Ghost 404

    very informative Thanks Elon😆 seriously it's good

  • Camron
    Camron

    Everything’s nice to me

  • Munzir Rafik
    Munzir Rafik

    MADE IN CHINA 🇨🇳

  • Fuhq Ewe
    Fuhq Ewe

    So it was a matter of profit over people. We kept making better bulbs because it was beneficial for all the people. Then we made them too good, some greedy members of our species monopolized the market and began producing just-good-enough-bulbs.

  • Elyas Wasiqi
    Elyas Wasiqi

    There is a movement against greedy malpractices of tech corporations called right to repair, but the nicest way explained is by veritasium: not confrontational and very informative.

  • Tim Godthardt
    Tim Godthardt

    It should be noted that in terms of lumens per watt, less lifetime generally means higher energy efficiency. This is why the move to fewer hours was supported by engineers that had an interest in energy efficiency. But the managers embraced it because it also meant higher profits. In general: longer lifespan means lower brightness and/or higher power draw. As you can see in the lightbulb at 06:18 it is very dim, and I assure you it still draws a LOT of energy. Part of that is because to reach a longer lifespan you need a thicker wire, but a thicker wire requires more power to make it glow. And to top it off it also means MUCH more heat being produced, because of how inefficient the tech was in the first place. So part of that 1000h move was to find a good point between resource costs of powering all these bulbs and the resource cost in replacing them. This is also why anti-trust agencies didn't act on it back in the day. At least that is how the story goes. I'd like for someone to properly test it... but nobody ever mentions the energy efficiency aspect in the first place.

  • Laurence Kim
    Laurence Kim

    The problem is people trying to look cool by showing off the stupid crap they buy.

  • Laurence Kim
    Laurence Kim

    i miss my iphone 7

  • cricketol
    cricketol

    information if the new wave of neo-fascism stop people for having the real information and they will always pay for proof of work

  • cricketol
    cricketol

    till that ending, i can agree with led bulbs die just as fast now as the incandescent from the past. There is no good way to make things last if there's money to be made.

  • John Warring
    John Warring

    Maybe look into Meyer's water car or John Hutchinson. And not just "googling it". Look into it.

  • BRIAN MCDONALD
    BRIAN MCDONALD

    Here from x XqcL

  • Moop Con
    Moop Con

    Capitalism does not breed innovation.

  • Rockport1911
    Rockport1911

    Linus send me :) Views are only gonna go up...

  • Kevin is sans undertale
    Kevin is sans undertale

    Juicers????

  • LKNANML
    LKNANML

    Millions of fathers around the world have one eye twitching because of that light bulb being on so long. Right behind messing with the thermostat leaving a light on in the house drove my father into an OCD frenzy. Leaving the fridge door open longer than 20 seconds comes next. "Open the door, grab what you want and close the door damnit". "The door is not a window and I don't have xray vision dad. I didn't come to the fridge with detailed mission plans." FYI. Opening the door for a second then closing it then opening it then closing it...etc Drove him nuts........ Until he came up with "you are going to burn out that light so stop it". Good times.. Good times.

  • LIBERATION
    LIBERATION

    XqcL

  • Jan Markes Roots
    Jan Markes Roots

    Good video, making a comment for algorithms

  • unknown
    unknown

    Derek looking directly into lightbulbs irks me.

  • hawadingin
    hawadingin

    The questions I asked to my dad has been answered by watching this video. Thanks

  • R K
    R K

    Imagine their contribution to global waste

  • Aussie Gardener
    Aussie Gardener

    Just subbed ... Love your content!

  • Hu wah
    Hu wah

    I Learned a lot wow

  • Just Breathe
    Just Breathe

    Thankyou

  • RICK ROLLED{TRUTH}
    RICK ROLLED{TRUTH}

    FELIX AKA XQC SENT ME )))))))

  • Ꭱite
    Ꭱite

    XqcL

  • Ꭱite
    Ꭱite

    :>

  • Phineas
    Phineas

    Our current system of fineing companies is inadiquate. It should be illigal for large companies to settle out of court, and whatever money the company made due to the illigal act should be confiscated on top of a fine that comprises a minimum of 15% of the companies total revinue. This money should then be evenly redistributed amongst those affexted by the illigal action.

  • Jesse Slater
    Jesse Slater

    Don't forget about the waste and pollution created by planned obsolescence. And don't think that LED bulbs are any better as far as lifespan, the circuit boards are designed to burn out after a couple of years so you gotta buy new ones. You might look into automotive fuel consumption rates. The way cars and trucks are built and designed now they could easily get 50-75mph but they don't because they don't have to. Imagine how much pollution could be lessened if all cars lasted for at least 300K miles and averaged 75mph. It's easily achievable but it's not profitable to the people that own the gas and automobile companies. The paint color thing was interesting, I didn't know that.

  • Joe Cool
    Joe Cool

    I'm seeing lots of comments of people saying communism is the answer in a non-joking fashion. Very concerning

  • Florky Man
    Florky Man

    You didn't talk about the light bulbs out of Dubai.

  • Pervasive Doubt
    Pervasive Doubt

    A company that needs to invest a heavy amount wants as much reward as possible and they shouldn’t invest where they won’t get a good return, so a natural inclination will be to use planned obsolescence. However, competition forces will compel other companies to compete with better products. If a market has healthy competition, (which many don’t) firms can reach an equilibrium to balance value for the company and value for the consumer

  • Shashwat Agrawal
    Shashwat Agrawal

    Look at the new iMacs for examples ring some bell? no?.. they coloured them again

  • Josh8far
    Josh8far

    This video oddly matches a lot of what was said by Sally Helm on NPRs Throughline podcast. I’m not saying there is plagiarism, but it is peculiar how the same three examples were used in this video as in that podcast.

  • Edward Cullen
    Edward Cullen

    WHAT MICROPHONE DOES HE USE!?

  • Adzigari
    Adzigari

    Hi, welcome to capitalism.

  • HeavyWater1931
    HeavyWater1931

    Technocracy Inc. has been pointing this out since the Great Depression almost a hundred years ago

  • john zuijdveld
    john zuijdveld

    This is very old news! (I haven't watched it all) it's called planned obsolescence, meaning that products are deliberately designed to fail long before they would've if it had been designed to last! This IS capitalism in action, you vote for it's applications whenever you install conservative/nationalist govts because that is why conservatism was invented! to keep the rich rich and the workers IE: 99% of ALL ppl. on the planet in borderline poverty. This keeps labor costs from rising because ppl. become desperate for jobs, very simple strategy but these days esp. in the US. (due to conservative fearmongering about socialism/communism since the 1950's, YES you ppl. don't learn!) ppl. seem to think conservatives care for ppl. IE: Regan the pretender and now Trump the liar! During the 1980's-90's the conservatives who had much power/influence over economists(Reagan/Thatcher) promoted 'trickle down economics' meaning if the rich got richer so w'ld the poor! That was 40yrs ago and even 25yrs ago it had already been shown NOTEVER to have worked! except for about 5 yrs in the US. To this day the conservatives cling to this BS ideology and it is why your incomes have increased only by 40% odd in 40yrs while corperate wealth has increased 400%. . . SO I hope you love your poverty! keep voting the Reps. the Libs. and the Nat's. into power for they'll ensure you keep getting what YOU deserve! The 'right to repair?' what a JOKE! how about making sure that what you buy will last! demand a higher price for the product, allowing higher wages for workers and ensure repairs are possible. Sure less labor will be needed that can then be diverted to aged care, healthcare, social housing, mental heath, tourism, entertainment, renewables, recycling, infrastructure and hospitality industries that ppl. will be able to enjoy due to higher incomes and more free time. How about before that, we close the loopholes that allow the Mega-rich corporations, mining, banking, and industrial interests ALL! from hiding moneys that they should be taxed on in 'Tax Havens' around the world. This is simply companies STEALING from the ppl. of nations that they work and benefit from! Conservative govts. globally actively suppress moves by any to curtail these practices, or to investigate the insurance and banking industries globally!

  • stellar
    stellar

    14:07 whats wrong with a new iPhone every year? Imagine if we were still stuck with the first iPhone (2007) because Apple didnt want to make any newer phones that made it obsolete. Im not defending Apple, i think purposely slowing down older models, designing them to fail, and making them irreparable when they do fail is planned obsolescence and bad. But do new styles and colors make iPhones obsolete? You can just buy a case. Apple makes millions of iPhones each year, why should they all look identical? It really doesnt matter if the edges are rounded or squared off, thats why Apple can make it both ways without ruining its quality. Yes improvements year to year are marginal but most people aren’t upgrading every single year. Apple didn’t make the iPhone X in 2017 for the people who just bought an iPhone 7 in 2016. They made it for the people who wanted a new phone in 2017, who probably had their phone for 3-6 years already. Imagine if Apple instead released iPhones on a 4-year cycle, so they jumped from iPhone 6S (2015) to iPhone 11 (2019). Someone buying a new phone in 2018 could’ve gotten an iPhone XS, but instead they have to buy a phone thats already 3 years old or wait a whole nother year for the new one? By not making an iPhone XS, they are holding back tech from consumers to force them to buy an outdated phone thats gonna be replaced soon. I’d rather they make marginal improvements every year because that means that the next phone won’t make the previous model obsolete, whereas major changes will. I think a big reason why Apple makes marginal improvements every year is because its easier than relearning a totally new phone. Its not as simple as “why cant Apple just put every planned feature in the next iPhone so we dont have to keep waiting for the next one?” It takes time to adopt new tech so they release it gradually. Not just for the people purchasing the phones, but also for the companies supplying the materials, the companies that manufacture the parts, the people that create services using the tech, and building the infrastructure to support the technology. Society adapts to an evolving smartphone and in return, smartphones have to adapt to an evolving society. For example, Apple used to boast that iPhone size was perfect because you could reach every corner of the screen with your thumb, but as people started doing more things on their phones, they needed more room so larger screens became more ideal. As smartphones change how we live our lives, the ideal smartphone also changes so Apple can’t make a final “best” iPhone.

    • Blake Reidy
      Blake Reidy

      I think that having better products definitely matter. One big issue is something that Apple just did a few days ago. They released their new phone in purple for no reason. Also many of their products barely differ each model that is why so many people are making a smarter investment buying every other generation. But overall I think the video is using apple as an example because their idiotic repair logic.

  • NicCrimson
    NicCrimson

    This is why I like to make my own things.

  • Happy Slappy
    Happy Slappy

    Corporates are scum.

  • indyjons321
    indyjons321

    They even killed Nicola Tesla over planned obsolescence.

  • Faisal
    Faisal

    I think this is the most important video I ever watch on youtube.

  • ted william
    ted william

    Just move to india. They rebuild, refurbish ,reuse, recycle, recreate, revamp, re everything to everything

  • Naamã dos Santos Silva
    Naamã dos Santos Silva

    Planned obsolescence is similar to Keynesian economics.Both are wrong and destroy the living standards of the poorer people.

  • hasan muttaqin
    hasan muttaqin

    now i know why iphone doesn't have charger

  • Scudmaster11
    Scudmaster11

    I hate LED lighting... no they aren't light bulbs ... get it right

  • DaddyBigMad
    DaddyBigMad

    this is the exact same reason we will NEVER find a cure for cancer.

  • NaitNait
    NaitNait

    An important historical context before the 1980s and 1990s is the idea m Earth was infinite. Resources were not viewed as limited, there were always places for new landfills. Today we see Earth very much as finite.

  • Daehawk
    Daehawk

    Simply wouldnt pay that fine.

  • DD Hamilton
    DD Hamilton

    2 points: (1)energy emitted of a blackbody at 2800C is not one half that of the Sun at 5600C. (2) these companies are thus responsible for the enormous amount of waste that has been produced. Thus they should foot the bill for the cleanup. Also, how can a light bulb be on continuously for 100+ yrs when the firehouse is only decades old.

  • Jeffrey Bauer
    Jeffrey Bauer

    This video is brilliant. It explains why my vehicle does not last as long as it should.

  • Kay Guidry
    Kay Guidry

    ISnets would not let me subscribe

  • Jason Burke
    Jason Burke

    I replaced all light bulbs in my house to LED bulbs about 7 years ago, and I've already replaced at least 6 of them. The dream of an everlasting bulb, is still a dream, planned obsolescence will never go away!

  • Carl-Johan Wulf
    Carl-Johan Wulf

    Who were issuing fines? Can companies give out fines? Issit within their legal right?

  • Steve O
    Steve O

    Dude.... this makes me absolutely angry. What in the actual hell are we doing? So much greed!

  • M McKinley
    M McKinley

    There is a whole type of engineering dedicated to it called absolence engineering

  • A
    A

    There used to be hydro powered trollies along every river up and down the East Coast of the usa. Henry Ford conspired with the then president (sorry I forgot who) and they tore them up, built cars and highways. Look for the book, "the real history of the usa ".

  • A
    A

    This really pisses me off!!

  • Jim Feig
    Jim Feig

    Google throttles Pixel phones via updates.

  • Adam Mcgrath
    Adam Mcgrath

    Oooooook. You got another sub. Awesome video brother. Well done

  • Dr_1776
    Dr_1776

    I wonder who the person was that screwed in the old light bulb

  • sti rumble
    sti rumble

    Edison stole the invention from Sir Joseph Swan. Edison just commercialized it.

  • itsnotwhatyouthink1
    itsnotwhatyouthink1

    This guy thought that companies wont sell a inferior product to make more money......? No wonder he is wearing two masks....? why not wear 10 masks..? If it dont make dollars it dont make sense..

  • Dylan White
    Dylan White

    Battery gate is rather bs

  • USMCSKY DeathbyZombiez
    USMCSKY DeathbyZombiez

    No money in curing diseases either. I know very few doctors who go beyond treating symptoms. Pharmaceutical companies would hate it.

  • ConstantBit9
    ConstantBit9

    So in layman's terms, we can't have nice things due to greedy CEOs

    • Marcus Milligan
      Marcus Milligan

      If you wanna know why you can't have nice things look at my playlist and save it

    • Marcus Milligan
      Marcus Milligan

      And in other words, we are serfs

  • Alexander Crafter
    Alexander Crafter

    LED

  • Applecrow
    Applecrow

    There is a good 'How many Cartels does it take to screw up a light bulb' joke somewhere in here.

  • steve lawrence
    steve lawrence

    Nice vid sir.

  • Stanimir Rankovski
    Stanimir Rankovski

    Nope... It is absolutely the same for LED bulbs.

  • Grumpy. Com
    Grumpy. Com

    Great article, but that light bulb at the start in not in a 120 year old building. That building looks to be about 50 or 60 years old. How has the bulb been on continuously for 120 years?

  • E942
    E942

    So capitalism is the machine we have to rage against... as always. At least greedy capitalism which makes things worse to support a small amount of people.

  • lunzie01
    lunzie01

    Ever hear of Edward Bernays? Watch "Century of the Self" by Adam Curtis. Bernays is the "father of marketing" (or propaganda).

  • Lulu J
    Lulu J

    Are there still companies that dont do this?

  • Brian Bell
    Brian Bell

    LED -10 year life span.? Not a chance. (LED engineered obsolescence with poor circuitry). Compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) seems to be the best Choice overall.

  • mathIsART 2
    mathIsART 2

    The term "conspiracy theory" was introduced by the CIA to discredit truth and hide facts.

  • Don Carlin
    Don Carlin

    To be fair, that bulb featured in the beginning looked like it was very dim, and simple physics means if a metal is heated more, it's going to melt and burn out faster, and reverse is true.

  • Henk Smit
    Henk Smit

    When money is involved, no one can be trusted. Certainly not the large companies. Earning money today is: how do I get someone else into it. And that programmed wear and tear is a shame and depletes the earth super fast and is extremely harmful to the third world in particular. But the reasoning is ..... what do I care if it only makes me rich when the whole world collapses. Money makes blind and unscrupulous and greedy

  • Jeremy Huddleston
    Jeremy Huddleston

    ...and people say “planned obsolescence” is a myth. Yet this video proves it has happened in the past...at least once

  • ccc310
    ccc310

    The only thing we aren't running out of at this point is greed.

  • Joe
    Joe

    Please please please do a follow up video helping out Louis Rossmann’s right to repair campaign! He’s fighting the good fight, and needs all the help he can

  • Антон Андреев
    Антон Андреев

    Too bad some video streaming platforms also block payment methods from another country...

  • Pasan Jayaweera
    Pasan Jayaweera

    Ah it sounds like something edison would do, oh wait he actually did it. Classic edison

  • NightOwl Games
    NightOwl Games

    they do the same thing with phones

  • Công Huy Lê
    Công Huy Lê

    I’m here for the Taylor Swift reference

  • Lucas Chase
    Lucas Chase

    Pretty sure the planned obsolescence of LED bulbs is already underway. I've had way too many LED bulbs die way earlier than I would ever expect.

  • Nathan Zaremskiy
    Nathan Zaremskiy

    This is why capitalism doesn't work

  • yokmp1
    yokmp1

    The LEDs itself won't break, but the electronics shure will

  • phil summo
    phil summo

    Brilliant...really interesting

  • Chris N
    Chris N

    Think what they do with all the technology available today?

  • Paul Smart
    Paul Smart

    So the idea that we need to force people to keep working so that they can keep producing things we don't need or even want is pretty old, then.

  • Dean Parks
    Dean Parks

    LED...everlasting light bulb? What a joke. I've got incandescent bulbs that have been in my house for 20 years and are still burning bright. And some of the LED bulbs that I have installed I've already replaced multiple times. I've had LED's burn out in just a few months and sometimes weeks. They are definitely not everlasting.

  • Mi chi
    Mi chi

    I have a bowl full of Osram lightbulps that are dead

  • Tom McDonough
    Tom McDonough

    I'd love to see a video on another HUGE scam that's been taking place for quite some time; PRINTER INK!